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New Milano FIC frequencies from today


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Hi Tim & Team,
as of today, Milano FIC has a new layout and new frequencies. Full text of NOTAM is below, haven't seen it on SD yet. 



A4580/24 NOTAMN
Q) LIMM/QSECF/IV/BO/E/000/999/4447N00848E107
A) LIMM
B) 2406040900 C) PERM
E) MILANO ACC AREA. ACC/SCCAM FREQUENCIES.
– MILANO ACC FREQ 135.075MHZ IS NO MORE ASSIGNED AS AUXILIARY FREQ
FOR THE PROVISION OF APP, THE SAME FREQ IS NOW AVAILABLE
FOR FIS/ALRS PROVISION WITHIN AREA BOUNDED BY
ABREG-455000N0091500E-454500N0091500E-453636N0091303E-
453450N0091241E-453450N0091308E-453115N0091308E-453030N0091225E
THEN ARC OF CIRCLE IN ANTI-CLOCKWISE DIRECTION RADIUS 5.0NM
CENTERED ON 452630N0091640E TILL POINT 452335N0091054E-
451529N0091132E- 450743N0090939E-WEST DIRECTION ALONG PO RIVER UNTIL
451052N0081539E-445534N0081540E THEN ARC OF CIRCLE IN
CLOCKWISE DIRECTION RADIUS 17.0NM CENTERED ON 445529N0075143E-
TILL POINT 444046N0080343E-443700N0075430E-442829N0075430E-
442331N0075653E-442332N0073315E-442500N0071300E-442325N0065423E-
ITALIAN NORTHERN GEOGRAPHICAL BORDER TILL POINT ABREG
BY MILANO FIC, CALL SIGN ‘MILANO INFORMATION’
WITH HR 0600-2200 (0500-2100).
– MILANO FIC FREQ 124.925MHZ AVAILABLE WITHIN AREA BOUNDED BY
ABREG-455000N0091500E-454500N0091500E-453636N0091303E-
453450N0091241E-453450N0091308E-453115N0091308E-453030N0091225E
THEN ARC OF CIRCLE IN ANTI-CLOCKWISE DIRECTION RADIUS 5.0NM
CENTERED ON 452630N0091640E TILL POINT 452335N0091054E-
451529N0091132E-450743N0090939E-EST DIRECTION ALONG PO RIVER
UNTIL 450401N0094400E-450035N0094731E-445343N0100307E-
444443N0103428E-443952N0105106E-443707N0105313E-
443345N0110239E-OGPUD-ABMOG-444534N0105654E-FAMXO-
444908N0110753E-RICIZ-XUBKA-445723N0111119E-451518N0111422E-
TUVDE-452530N0110800E-452957N0110800E-453340N0105628E-
453352N0103254E-NOBMI-NESTI-LEVSI-LUSIL-461715N0100029E-
ITALIAN NORTHERN GEOGRAPHICAL BORDER TILL POINT ABREG
WITH HR 0600-2200 (0500-2100).
– MILANO FIC FREQ 128.925MHZ AVAILABLE WITHIN AREA SOUTH OF
443345N0110239E-443707N0105313E-443952N0105106E-444443N0103428E-
445343N0100307E-450035N0094731E-450401N0094400E-
WEST DIRECTION ALONG PO RIVER UNTIL 450743N0090939E-
WEST DIRECTION ALONG PO RIVER UNTIL 451052N0081539E-445534N0081540E
THEN ARC OF CIRCLE IN CLOCKWISE DIRECTION RADIUS 17.0NM
CENTERED ON 445529N0075143E TILL POINT 444046N0080343E-
443700N0075430E-442829N0075430E-442331N0075653E-
442332N0073315E-442500N0071300E-442325N0065423E
WITH HR 0600-2200 (0500-2100).
REF AIP ENR 2.1.1.1-3


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Adam Erchegyi
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kavok - 7/9/2024 7:33:05 PM
Tim Dawson - 7/8/2024 9:45:04 AM
We have looked into this, and those are not yet permanent changes, so our charts will continue to reflect the permanent data for Italy.

Sorry, but I do not agree.
During actuals flights, Sky Demon chart give a wrong data to pilot. Different from real.
I think would better you change  now these no permanente data and check until these data become permanent.
I think every pilot agree  this solution.



No! Speak for yourself please.
The only way to fix this is to bug the Italian authorities to do their publications the proper way as everyone else.

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Adam Erchegyi - 7/9/2024 8:17:01 PM
kavok - 7/9/2024 7:33:05 PM
Tim Dawson - 7/8/2024 9:45:04 AM
We have looked into this, and those are not yet permanent changes, so our charts will continue to reflect the permanent data for Italy.

Sorry, but I do not agree.
During actuals flights, Sky Demon chart give a wrong data to pilot. Different from real.
I think would better you change  now these no permanente data and check until these data become permanent.
I think every pilot agree  this solution.



No! Speak for yourself please.
The only way to fix this is to bug the Italian authorities to do their publications the proper way as everyone else.

When you could not change an establishment, is better to adapt.

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